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instrument, now used for flogging the rallow. It superseded "crull inst" (see p. 54)

"the Cat" a far more humane instrument.

In Acting Superintendent's opinion the increase in flogging is due to the cranks having got up to their proper presses: the prisoners had been accustomed to them in a slack time.

In Craig's report, it is stated that the Rattan is considered a more cruel method of punishment than the use of "the cat".

Mr. Marques testifies to the Gaol District being free from violence.

Craig thinks the Chinese like flogging, as they afterwards enjoy a rest in Hospital: this surprising statement is supported by Mr. Bell & Mr. Lethbridge.

This difficulty might be overcome by the substitution of the birch for the Rattan, equally painful, but less likely to cause injury.

Dr. Kill and Mr. Lethbridge both advocate fewer floggings; the limit should be from 12-24 instead of from 24-36.

They are equally convinced of the necessity of continuing flogging and Mr. Lethbridge distinctly remarks that without the power to flog, he cannot govern the Gaol.

Bk17. 44-91, Mk 17-95-, kk37.45.88-, þ-257-63, h 94.

The rattan is used for every flogging; this is a great mutilation; the danger of blood poisoning is increased.

Dr. Tyrell & Dr. Fell both testify to this. To send a man out of gaol with an open wound is risky; in an unwholesome locality he is very likely to contract poisoning: the man who recently died was probably poisoned in this way or in the Hospital, which was overcrowded.

M39-108, h.34.

Drill is deprecated; shot drill is advocated; quarry cutting is suggested.

The meaning of the Rules is discussed in the report of the Commission.

The chief decisions are: A 24-, 4.15-24, £16-46, kk 68-69-84.85′′.

The report practically absolves everyone from all blame.

If there has been too much flogging, the Rules are to blame, as being ambiguous.

In the case of the prisoner who died, flogging was not the cause of death.

The Superintendent should maintain his independent powers of flogging; the birch might be substituted for the rattan; if the rattan be maintained, the number of strokes should not exceed twenty.

The Superintendent should attend floggings.

The Hospital accommodation is grossly inadequate.

In face of the unanimous opinion of all on the spot, it would be unsafe to restrict the powers of the Superintendent to order floggings at the Gaol.

There is great force in the remarks on page 6 of the Commission's report as to the exceptional position of Hong Kong.

We are told that the character of the prisoners in the Hong Kong gaol is far worse than that of the average English prison.

We have testimony of the violence of the prisoners, many of whom are brigands and pirates.

(4) The Hospital is too small: the Chinese sleep on the floor.

This fact increases the danger of blood poisoning.

RED Warders do not understand medicines etc. Both doctors mention this.

5. The Warders have too long hours: the staff is as good as can be got for the money, but inefficient.

An European staff would be excellent.

I think the substitution of the birch for the rattan, that the number of strokes should be limited, that the hospital accommodation & staff of warders should be increased: that prisoners whose time has expired, but who have unhealed wounds should not leave the gaol till they are cured; that a fresh instrument should be used for every flogging; that the threat of cutting should be carried out.

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instrument, now used for flogging the rallow. It superseded "crull inst" (see p. 54) "the Cat" a far more humane instrument. In Acting Superintendent's opinion the increase in flogging is due to the cranks having got up to their proper presses: the prisoners had been accustomed to them in a slack time. In Craig's report, it is stated that the Rattan is considered a more cruel method of punishment than the use of "the cat". Mr. Marques testifies to the Gaol District being free from violence. Craig thinks the Chinese like flogging, as they afterwards enjoy a rest in Hospital: this surprising statement is supported by Mr. Bell & Mr. Lethbridge. This difficulty might be overcome by the substitution of the birch for the Rattan, equally painful, but less likely to cause injury. Dr. Kill and Mr. Lethbridge both advocate fewer floggings; the limit should be from 12-24 instead of from 24-36. They are equally convinced of the necessity of continuing flogging and Mr. Lethbridge distinctly remarks that without the power to flog, he cannot govern the Gaol. Bk17. 44-91, Mk 17-95-, kk37.45.88-, þ-257-63, h 94. The rattan is used for every flogging; this is a great mutilation; the danger of blood poisoning is increased. Dr. Tyrell & Dr. Fell both testify to this. To send a man out of gaol with an open wound is risky; in an unwholesome locality he is very likely to contract poisoning: the man who recently died was probably poisoned in this way or in the Hospital, which was overcrowded. M39-108, h.34. Drill is deprecated; shot drill is advocated; quarry cutting is suggested. The meaning of the Rules is discussed in the report of the Commission. The chief decisions are: A 24-, 4.15-24, £16-46, kk 68-69-84.85′′. The report practically absolves everyone from all blame. If there has been too much flogging, the Rules are to blame, as being ambiguous. In the case of the prisoner who died, flogging was not the cause of death. The Superintendent should maintain his independent powers of flogging; the birch might be substituted for the rattan; if the rattan be maintained, the number of strokes should not exceed twenty. The Superintendent should attend floggings. The Hospital accommodation is grossly inadequate. In face of the unanimous opinion of all on the spot, it would be unsafe to restrict the powers of the Superintendent to order floggings at the Gaol. There is great force in the remarks on page 6 of the Commission's report as to the exceptional position of Hong Kong. We are told that the character of the prisoners in the Hong Kong gaol is far worse than that of the average English prison. We have testimony of the violence of the prisoners, many of whom are brigands and pirates. (4) The Hospital is too small: the Chinese sleep on the floor. This fact increases the danger of blood poisoning. RED Warders do not understand medicines etc. Both doctors mention this. 5. The Warders have too long hours: the staff is as good as can be got for the money, but inefficient. An European staff would be excellent. I think the substitution of the birch for the rattan, that the number of strokes should be limited, that the hospital accommodation & staff of warders should be increased: that prisoners whose time has expired, but who have unhealed wounds should not leave the gaol till they are cured; that a fresh instrument should be used for every flogging; that the threat of cutting should be carried out.
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instrument, now used for flogging the rallow. It superseded crull inst (see p. 54) I the Cat" a far late in Acting Superintendents opinion the increand flogging is due to the cranks having that up to their proper pressers: the prisoners had bew accustound to umb at them in In Craig Considers Sta Rattan 2/2024 Jr marques testifies to the Guok Dist being froom. cruel than the thimongst methods of punishment the use. cat cor h.6 h. 6o. long tum & stuch when their woch sluch condition for was suddenly increased. warder c) The Chief Craig thinks the Chinese like floggen, as they afterwards a slack time in Hapital: this surprising state- the injoy ment is supported by Ir Bell & Mr Lettebridge A overcome This difficulty might be substituted by the substitution of the birch for the Rattan, equally paciful, but less instrument ayuridus & Dr kill and Strokes 9 Jis to th Mer Lethbridge both advocate fewer flogginst the limit should be from 12-24 instead of from Aft but every VERMA 24-36 equally convinced of the necessity of contiming flogging and Mr Lethbridge distinctly remarks without the power that he araha not govaru the Gaol rattan Bk17. 44-91 Mk 17-95- kk37.45.88- þ-257-63 h 94. to flo }}. 2/4 rejaid the is bramant for flagginggil sales), used for every flogging this - great mastation; the danger of blood poisoning is increased. A 'new' t has mist alungs been 1: Ons Tyres & fell both testify to this. To send a now out of good with aw open wound is risky; unwholesome locality he is very likely to any to contracts poisoning: the man who recently died was probably poirsued in this way or in the Hospital, which if he goes blond was overcrowded. M39-108 h.34. of crou àðu i I like drill is deprecated adweated; shot drika Garrying hard for anyone ; too quare cutting is suggartech The meaning of the Rules is discussed report of the Commision fur chief decisions are A 24- 4.15- 24 400 £16-46 kk 68-69-84.85′′ practically absolves every one from all blame. If there has been too much flogging the Ruler on to blame, as being ambiguous- [onth 68 alx ] I That in the case case of the prisoner who died flogging remota of death, I that no blauer attackes is my only a The Superintendent should maintain his independent powers of flogging + p Dj not that the birch might be substituted for the rattare, dif the rattaw be maintained the number of strokes should not exceed twenty. [h I attend floggings kein '[he]. The Superin touchent should The Hospital accommoduction is gromaly in ade one remarks dequate. i Scesses to that in face of the unanimous opinion of all ou he spot it would be unsafer to restrict the powers of the Superintendent At alou de away with floggings at the Gool. There is great force in the on page 6 of the Commission's report as to the exceptional position of #fong Kong. We are told that the character of the avering in the thong Kary gaol is fate worse than that of the a Alkrage English prison. nk. ts we have have testimony of the violence of the prisoners. and brigands, it searus any form of permishment should be appeal to theme so corporal punishment. convict ûn (4) The Hospital is too small: the Chinna sleek on the flook, this fact increasRED Warders do not understand medicines etc. Both doctors maka the danger of blood poisoning: the pp 38 - 106 Being Cargely compond of pirates. mention of this 5 The Wardens have too long hours: the stuff is as good as can be got for the money, but inefficient: staff au Judiaw not is good as au Europian staff. Mob.t. convict in al unlikely that much would be excellent, I think the substitution of the birch for the rattan that the number of strokes should be limited, that the hapit at accommodation & stuff of warders should be increased: that prisoners whose timme has expired, but who have unhauled wounds should not leave the good fill they fresh instrument should be used for every flogging: that the threat of cutting are cured that an
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instrument, now used for flogging the rallow. It superseded

crull inst (see p. 54)

I the Cat" a far

late

in Acting Superintendents opinion the increand flogging is due to the cranks having that up to their proper pressers: the prisoners had bew accustound to umb at them in

In Craig

Considers Sta

Rattan 2/2024

Jr

marques testifies to

the Guok Dist being froom.

cruel than the thimongst methods of punishment the use.

cat cor h.6

h. 6o.

long

tum & stuch when their woch

sluch condition for was suddenly increased.

warder

c) The Chief

Craig thinks the Chinese like floggen, as they afterwards

a slack time in Hapital: this surprising state- the injoy ment is supported by Ir Bell & Mr Lettebridge

A

overcome

This difficulty might be substituted by the substitution of the birch for the Rattan, equally paciful, but less

instrument

ayuridus

& Dr kill and

Strokes 9

Jis to th

Mer Lethbridge both advocate fewer flogginst the limit should be from 12-24

instead of from

Aft but every

VERMA

24-36

equally convinced of the necessity of contiming flogging and Mr Lethbridge distinctly remarks

without the power

that he araha

not

govaru

the Gaol

rattan

Bk17. 44-91

Mk 17-95-

kk37.45.88-

þ-257-63

h 94.

to flo

}}. 2/4 rejaid the is bramant for flagginggil sales),

used for every flogging this - great mastation; the danger of blood poisoning is increased.

A

'new' t has mist alungs

been

1: Ons Tyres & fell both testify to this.

To send a now out of good with aw open wound is risky; unwholesome locality he is very likely to any to contracts poisoning: the man who recently died was probably poirsued in this way or in the Hospital, which

if he goes

blond

was overcrowded.

M39-108

h.34.

of

crou àðu i

I like drill is deprecated

adweated; shot drika Garrying

hard for anyone ;

too

quare cutting is suggartech

The meaning of the Rules is discussed

report of the Commision

fur chief decisions are

A 24-

4.15- 24

400

£16-46 kk 68-69-84.85′′

practically absolves

every

one

from all blame.

If there has been too much flogging the Ruler on to blame, as being

ambiguous- [onth 68 alx ]

I That in the case

case of the prisoner who died flogging remota of death, I that no blauer attackes is my

only a

The Superintendent should maintain his independent powers of flogging + p Dj not that the birch might be substituted for the rattare, dif the rattaw be maintained the number of strokes should not exceed twenty. [h I

attend floggings kein '[he].

The Superin touchent should

The Hospital accommoduction is gromaly in ade

one

remarks

dequate.

i

Scesses to that in face of the unanimous opinion of all ou he spot it would be unsafer to restrict the powers of the Superintendent

At alou

de away

with floggings at the Gool. There is

great force in the

on page 6 of the Commission's report as to the exceptional position of #fong Kong. We are told that the

character

of the

avering

in the thong Kary gaol is fate

worse than

that

of the a

Alkrage

English prison. nk. ts we have

have testimony of the violence of the prisoners.

and brigands, it searus any form of permishment should be appeal to theme so corporal punishment.

convict ûn

(4) The Hospital is too small: the Chinna sleek on the flook,

this fact increasRED Warders do not understand medicines etc. Both doctors

maka

the danger of blood poisoning: the pp 38 - 106 Being Cargely compond of pirates.

mention of this

5 The Wardens have too long hours: the stuff is as good as

can be got for the money, but inefficient:

staff

au

Judiaw

not is good as

au Europian staff.

Mob.t.

convict in

al

unlikely that

much

would be excellent,

I think the substitution of the birch for the rattan that the number of strokes should be limited, that the hapit at accommodation & stuff of warders should be increased: that prisoners whose timme has expired, but who have unhauled wounds should not leave the good fill they fresh instrument should be used for every flogging: that the threat of cutting

are cured that an

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